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	<title>Comments on: More on &#8216;art&#8217; versus &#8216;photography&#8217;&#8230;</title>
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		<title>By: Julian</title>
		<link>http://www.foundobjectsgallery.com/bartender/2007/11/26/more-on-art-versus-photography/#comment-88</link>
		<dc:creator>Julian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 07:42:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good point Bee. One of my favourite philosophers, Adorno, said that for art to be authentic, the materials and/or techniques used had to bring something unique to the work, to inform the work. So I guess according to that and your comments it is a fair response. Trouble is I don't FEEL any different! I still think of myself as a photographer - in fact I feel as if I'm doing more personal work now than I've ever done. True, ripping and layering photos goes a bit far, but I really don't think the trips and pairs/fours are THAT far from traditional photography concerns.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point Bee. One of my favourite philosophers, Adorno, said that for art to be authentic, the materials and/or techniques used had to bring something unique to the work, to inform the work. So I guess according to that and your comments it is a fair response. Trouble is I don&#8217;t FEEL any different! I still think of myself as a photographer - in fact I feel as if I&#8217;m doing more personal work now than I&#8217;ve ever done. True, ripping and layering photos goes a bit far, but I really don&#8217;t think the trips and pairs/fours are THAT far from traditional photography concerns.</p>
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		<title>By: Bee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 21:20:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People who like that what is generally referred to as photography, do so because that stuff has certain characteristics that other art media don't. Much of this has to do with photography's special relationship to visible reality. So when your work lets go of those very characteristics those people enjoy, they stop being interested. Blame yourself; it's fair, I agree with them that you're crossing a line over to a different field. Fine with me, as you know. But people who are dedicated photo fans will not be happy; otherwise they'd be art fans, not photo fans. Photo vs the rest is not like oils vs acrylics; photography has something that nothing else does. So you get people who are serious about that... because that's the reason they look/buy. 

As far as I know you're ex wife is not a photographer so these issues mean little to her, which doesn't they aren't real and serious to those committed to the medium. 

But hey it's da ghetto, man, and you're breaking out. 

Bee</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People who like that what is generally referred to as photography, do so because that stuff has certain characteristics that other art media don&#8217;t. Much of this has to do with photography&#8217;s special relationship to visible reality. So when your work lets go of those very characteristics those people enjoy, they stop being interested. Blame yourself; it&#8217;s fair, I agree with them that you&#8217;re crossing a line over to a different field. Fine with me, as you know. But people who are dedicated photo fans will not be happy; otherwise they&#8217;d be art fans, not photo fans. Photo vs the rest is not like oils vs acrylics; photography has something that nothing else does. So you get people who are serious about that&#8230; because that&#8217;s the reason they look/buy. </p>
<p>As far as I know you&#8217;re ex wife is not a photographer so these issues mean little to her, which doesn&#8217;t they aren&#8217;t real and serious to those committed to the medium. </p>
<p>But hey it&#8217;s da ghetto, man, and you&#8217;re breaking out. </p>
<p>Bee</p>
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